ASK
CYNTHIA – Kicking Horse
I have recently bought a little 3/4 Arab mare as a second horse
to ride and would love your help with her. She came to me very nervous
and worried and has not had much done with her over the last 4 years.
She has settled in well and I am gaining her trust and she's nowhere
near as worried as she used to be on the ground. I’ve been
playing the 7 games with her and spending as
much time as I can doing groundwork with her but still have a long
way to go. She was very disrespectful when she first came to me
but is very responsive and learns quickly and I am aware not to
use too much energy with her as she's quite sensitive.
My main problem with her is that she cow kicks when you clean out
her hind feet. And she doesn’t just kick out, she steps over
towards you and kicks out! This is of course very disrespectful
and not acceptable behaviour not to mention dangerous!
My question is - what should I be doing to a) protect myself from
being kicked and b) stop her from doing it.
I have been playing the friendly game a lot with the carrot stick
and using it to rub down her legs and feet and giving her lots of
praise and encouragement. She will stand quite happily while I do
that, but the minute you ask to pick up her feet she will lash out
at you.
Friends have suggested that I keep playing the friendly game and
use lots of encouragement but also said to email you as I’m
sure you will have other ideas how to deal with this problem.
ANSWER:
It sounds like your new mare will teach you a lot!
Even though she seems to be assertive towards you, its most likely
that she’s worried about her legs being confined in the hands
of a perceived predator (You!)
Being friendly is definitely a good starting point so continue to
use the stick to keep yourself safe, then add friendly with the
rope to prepare her for the next stage. Once she accepts the rope
swinging around her legs, loop it around her pastern and gently
lift the leg forward a little, just enough that it releases. Work
gradually to where you can lift it up and down with a rhythm before
you try to hold it up.
If she kicks at the rope, just go with it and keep the rope there
without fighting her.
This way you can stay out of kicking range and she won't be able
to get rid of you as you're attached to the rope. Once you can hold
it up for a few seconds then add rubbing your hand on her leg with
the rope still around to hold it up.
Once she can accept that, then lift her leg out of the rope and
put it down a few times.
Even when you are ready to lift the leg towards the back, keep the
rope on it in case she kicks and you need to let go with your hand.
Try to hold the leg low - she may have even developed the kicking
habit because she is in pain from having it lifted too high. I'd
even get her checked out by the chiropractor in case she still has
a physical problem.
Ask Cynthia
- Why does my horse have a sour attitude?
"A
few weeks ago I got bucked off Blaze. I know that it isn't a rare
occurance when we have horses but it really scared me. We had been
travelling really well up until then but something has changed....
We
were riding in the round yard - me and Blaze with Rob on Fred. Blaze
seemed very 'cranky' (ears back, reluctant to move forward) so I
kept on persisting, trying to mix it up a bit - side passes and
indirect rein etc. She was going ok until I asked her to walk on
forward - ears flat to her head and rounding right through her body.
She started to buck and to be quite honest, I would have won the
rodeo if it was a comp... I managed to get flexion but then lost
it again and she took one big buck and off I flew! Once I managed
to scrape myself off the ground, I walked to her and she was shaking
like a leaf! It really worried me that she was in such a state....
I
am concerned that the saddle may not fit her perfectly so I'm getting
my wintec fitted by a lady at Horseland AND I also got Gaynor Ross
(Chiropractor) around to see Blaze. Blaze has an old injury to her
front right foot and Gaynor thinks that she may have been caught
in a fence when she was a baby and may have torn some muscles in
her shoulder - but this shouldn't cause much pain now although we
are working on the injury.
Anyway,
I haven't ridden Blaze since (until I get the saddle checked) but
I have been doing ground work with her nearly every day but she
seems to 'dislike' me... When I do some circles, friendly - even
brush her she puts her ears back on her head and stamps her back
foot. She has even tried to take a half hearted kick at me when
doing circles. Cynthia, what do I do?
I
hope you can help me. I love Blaze so much and want us to be partners...
Am I taking the wrong approach?" Cathryn.
Cynthia's Solution:
You have done the right thing in getting Blaze checked out for possible
physical causes for the issues you are having with her.
If you haven't mde any changes to her feed (for instance a new grassy
pasture or toxic rye grass, may cause irritable, nervy behaviour
and bucking), then the next
consideration for a mare is to notice if this behaviour occurs all
the time or just at certain times of the month.
She may be experiencing hormone problems which can cause some mares
to become crabby around the time they come into season. If this
isn't the case then her sour looks may be that she's trying to show
you she's still higher in the pecking order - the same as she'd
drive away a pesky youngster lower in the herd.
The ground work you do needs to establish a partnership where you
are clearly the leader so maybe she has read from your body language
that you you possibly aren't a good leader yet and she is taking
on that role. Check that you are not 'giving ground' to her - notice
if she causes you to step out of her way or move backwards when
she's coming close to you when you play ground games.
A good way to check this while circling is to place a marker such
as a tyre or a cone in the middle of the circle and ensure that
you walk around it as she circles. If she's pushing on you, you
will step onto or behind the tyre or cone and you need to then correct
this by pushing her out with the tail end of your rope or your training
stick. If she has a kick at you, then drive her hindquarters away
from you - keeping a shorter rope so she can't turn her hind end
to you.
Other reasons she may show a sour attitude are a boring routine
or she is learning faster than you are therefore not being challenged
enough which is like your teacher asking you to repeatedly do something
you mastered long ago (like your x tables or the alphabet). Try
to play with her in an interesting way that is different every day
by setting up different challenges and obstacles. Even moving the
same obstacles to a different location can help. There are some
good ideas for challenges on my Ideas Page
that should help get your lateral thinking going.
It might also help to mix up or expand the type of training you
do - for example horses that learn quickly love 'Clicker Training'
and its a great way to improve your timing and thinking of how to
break tasks down into achievable steps. For more info on Clicker
Training go to my Book Review and my
Links Page.
As for the riding, again, you're doing the right thing in checking
saddle fit first. When that is sorted out it might be best to ensure
that you have good communication and respect on the ground before
attempting to ride again. When it is time to ride, spend only a
small amount of time in the roundyard and incorporate some challenges
like poles to walk over and cones to weave through.
Once you're sure she is responding well, go outside the yard to
ride over the other obstacles you have or ask Rob and Fred to lead
on a short trail ride at a walk. If you feel her starting to round
up again in preparation for bucking, get off and make life uncomfortable
for her so she is not rewarding for 'gettting you off'. Play some
active, yielding games at the trot or if you're in the roundyard,
tie your reins up safely and send her around at the trot for several
laps until she wants to acknowledge you and come in.
Then get back on and just sit there for a while to give her comfort
for having you on her back. Try to finish the riding session on
a positive note by getting off when she has walked without wanting
to buck, even for one lap around the yard, then she will give you
more next time when she remembers that riding was not a big issue.
Remember that if you
find yourself struggling to make progress then get hands on help
from a reputable instructor.
How
to help your herd bound horse
by Cynthia Cooper
Often referred to as
being ‘barn sour’ or rushing home, the herd bound horse
just wants to stay near the barn or get home and back to their mates
as fast as possible.
It can turn in to a frustrating if not dangerous situation, especially
if you’re out on the trail and lose control when you head
for home.
Some horses display mild issues such as jigging, reefing on the
bridle/ head tossing, or just speed up their pace, while others
can buck or rear when held back.
All they are trying to tell you is they would rather be back home
with their friends, especially their best buddy. 
So aren’t you supposed
to be one of their best friends?
Well, if your horse doesn’t see you that way, there are many
and varied ways to convince them that you do have their best interests
at heart.
Spending more time doing friendly things away from the herd is a
good place to start so the horse sees time with your as something
special, not always hard work!
Take them out for a walk to nibble on nice grass and other plants
they don’t have access too in their paddock. Catch and saddle
them but just go out of sight of the herd and give them their bucket
feed instead of riding.
Take them to the round yard/arena for some ‘treat (clicker)
training’ and finish with a nice grooming session.
When you do go for a ride, stay within the horse’s ‘comfort
zone’ and work on gradually expanding that combined with positive
reinforcement so your horse can learn to cope with being away from
the herd.
Remember to include some reward breaks for grazing and resting during
your ride to strengthen the bond and trust you have – and
to show your horse its not all about you – they are considered
too!
There are so many ways
we can give our horses a good reason to enjoy our company, from
grooming, to finding their itchy spots, feeding them and taking
them out with a mate instead of insisting they go it alone.
This is one of my favourite ways of exercising more than one horse
at a time – I ride one and lead one. They then don’t
mind leaving the herd so much as the three of us become the herd
that goes out to explore!
My horses see going for a ride as a wonderful opportunity to see
new places, find things to eat, and get a nice grooming session
at the start and finish.
It only takes a bit of practice in an enclosed area to teach a horse
to lead another, and to get comfortable with the rope, learning
to ensure it doesn’t get caught up under your horse’s
tail. 
Its also helpful to
teach the horse being led to keep its head level with your leg,
or go behind on a long lead for where there are narrow trails or
gates to go through.
When starting out with leading like this, select two horses that
get along well together and ride the more confident/dominant one
– in most cases this works well although sometimes, the dominant
horse can be less confident and be better off led!
If its not possible to take another
horse out too and you have to go alone, here are some suggestions
to help expand your horse’s comfort zone so they learn that
leaving the herd is not all bad. Deb in the USA sent in this strategy
that worked for her ‘barn sour’ horse;
“Today I placed
three grain buckets in a triangle in a mile square field, and used
the telephone poles to line them up so I could remember where they
were. I walked her to the field, then hopped on, and rode her in
a straight line towards the first bucket. Since she was walking
away from home, it was a hesitant, drunken cowboy kind of walk to
the first bucket. It helped me to have the bucket to focus on, so
when Eclipse turned her head towards home, my focus stayed in the
direction I wanted to go.
She was pleasantly surprised to find food sitting in the middle
of this field. I headed her to the second bucket, towards home but
angled away, and she argued a bit more.
Once she got the idea, she started relaxing. By the time I had started
the fourth circuit, we were on a casual rein, and she was a million
times better than when we started.
Tomorrow I will do the same thing, and then gradually move the buckets
further away from home, and even start putting the buckets along
our usual trail ride.
I just want to cruise down the trail and have a casual ride. I don't
need all this drama, and I bet she doesn't either. This is a nice,
calm way to help a horse through the anxiety of leaving home.”
From here you could then carry
your treats with you instead of having to continue putting buckets
along the trail. A pocketful of ‘horse trail mix’ (sunflower
seeds, oats, chopped carrot) will be a welcome treat when you reach
various points along the trail.
You can also use the treat rewards on the way home to reinforce
good behaviour, and if it all falls apart, you know you’ve
gone a bit too far out of your horse’s comfort zone.
When their behaviour gets dangerous
or you simply don’t want to put up with jigging, you can get
off and walk if your horse has good ground manners. If your horse
keeps walking too fast and passing you, simply yield the hindquarters
so they end up behind you again, and keep walking. Pretty soon your
horse will find it easier to stay with you, especially if you reward
them with a treat for doing so.
There are many more options for
helping your herd bound horse – just doing a web search on
‘Barn sour horse’ or Herd bound Horse’ will find
thousands of pages and many varied suggestions from trainers worldwide.
Some advice is good and some will only reinforce your ‘do
as I say’ attitude (I’d rather a ‘would you like
to?’ attitude), so here are a few I’d recommend for
further reading:
Advice from Cheryl Sutor
Advice from Cherry Hill
Scot Hansen's article focuses on
our own herd bound behaviour too.
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